Created by Valentin_Ivanov on Sep 27, 2010 in  Society ->  Issues

Should Gay Marriage be Legalized?

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@pichurka
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I think it is time for society to make a review of the terms marriage and family. A couple doesn't need marriage in order to be a family. And this view is recognized in most modern societies. Therefore, not allowing same-sex couples to marry a is a legal barrier that doesn't add any value.

I am still not sure if gay couples should be allowed to raise children today. I don't think society is ready for this yet.

on Oct 3, 2010
@Johnathan
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@Jesper_Jazzper_Isaksson, Religion is never going to approve gay marriage. At least what we regard as classical religions - Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc. These religions are based on dogmas and rules. Most people follow their religion because they need rules to follow. Heterosexuality is one of the base dogmas of these religions.

on Oct 1, 2010
@Jesper_Jazzper_Isaksson
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I believe in love. I believe that love in any form is pure and beautiful. I am not in a position to judge what is love and what isn't.

Although I can see the problem and the problem is that marriage is a religious ceremony from the beginning and the religious world today hasn't moved anywhere in this matter, which is a shame. I would like to think that if there is a god, he/she wouldn't have anything against love. After all, he says that the greatest thing is love.

If you ask me, I call for a change of thinking when it comes to marriage as the "only and ultimate way of showing each other love". IN a way we need to de-romantisize (word?) marriage, especially since the church claims the marriage to be its holy ceremony. You can get married today without doing it in a church or by a pastor and I believe that marriage is as beautiful as any.

So my answer is yes. I wish that gay people could experience the same joy as everyone else who is in love. At the same time, I am hoping for marriage to become less...less romantic. Kinda.

on Sep 30, 2010
@Valentin_Ivanov
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Yes, in the off chance (probably way below 1%) and there's a straight and a gay couple wanting to adopt the same kid at the same time and all other aspects of those couples are equal, I would rather toss a coin than discriminate against one of the couples. Anyway, the scenario you're describing is so marginal I don't see a point in discussing it. You can't have such a marginal scenario dictate the overall policy in this issue.
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I am willing to bet that if you take a 100 adults, who had been adopted by gay couples as kids, and ask them whether they would have preferred to stay in the orphanage or be adopted and have a family, I am willing to bet that an overwhelming majority of those adults would prefer the adoption option. I have no way to prove that, because since there's no such policy, there are no such adults to ask in this point of time, however I have a strong feeling this would be the response. I can't imagine a kid preferring to stay in an orphanage (be it a Bulgarian or Norwegian one) than being in a home with parents who care and love him/her. No way.
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One of the most natural things for a kid is to have a healthy home environment and to be raised by people who love and care for him. Whether the kid has a higher chance of turning gay, so what? The kid's future should not be held hostage to the strange belief of this being somehow anti-evolutionary.

on Sep 29, 2010
@Steliyan_Petkov_Georgiev
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@Valentin_Ivanov, I know that my question is hypothetical but still I think there is a reason in it. So you are saying that if the two couples are exactly the same except that one is gay and the other one is not, we'd rather toss a coin to decide the kid's future instead of directly giving it to the straight couple.
On you question - again it depends on the case, i.e. living standards quality in the institution. Maybe in some cases it will be better for the kid to live in a gay family than in an institution and don't agree that this will be the case in the majority cases. In other words I hesitate if gay family or institution is a better future for a kid, but I definitely put the straight couple on first place and I think it should be the primary choice in any adoption regulations.
BTW, @Valentin_Ivanov, you have biased your previous point in the opposite direction of your believes expressed on the topic.

on Sep 29, 2010
@Valentin_Ivanov
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@Steliyan_Petkov_Georgiev Nothing in real real life is exactly the same. You are creating a strictly hypothetical situation which will probably apply in less than 5% of the cases. Again, I'm asking, if you're against gays adopting kids that means you would rather have a kid grow up in an institution than in a home with parents. Is there a single good reason to do that?
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About your scenario. A person either has the same rights as everyone else, prescribed by the law, or they don't. There's no middle road. There should be no discrimination in terms of race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. Everything else is discriminatory and creates more problems. No exceptions. So to answer your question: both couples should be evaluated regardless of their sexual orientation.

on Sep 29, 2010
@Steliyan_Petkov_Georgiev
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@Yordan_Yordanov, You are avoiding answering the question. I said IF EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME, i.e. the two couples are equally educated and they live in the same neighborhood. Should the straight ones take the kid?

on Sep 29, 2010
@Yordan_Yordanov
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@Steliyan_Petkov_Georgiev: What if the "regular" couple are non-educated persons and live in a ghetto together with 10 other "regular" couples while the gay couple are highly educated persons with good social and financial state? I say NO.

on Sep 29, 2010
@Steliyan_Petkov_Georgiev
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@Valentin_Ivanov, @Yordan_Yordanov, I have a question for you. Suppose two couples are applying for adopting a child - one gay couple and one "regular" couple. If everything else is the same, should the "regular" couple be given advantage over the gay couple, because of their "regular" sexuality? I say YES.

on Sep 29, 2010
@Yordan_Yordanov
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The problem is the marriage itself. It is just an artificial institution that means nothing and it should be removed in our "modern" society.
As for the gays - they should be granted the very same civil rights as heterosexuals. The same is true for the marriage although I don't consider it as a privilege.

on Sep 28, 2010
@Valentin_Ivanov
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So you would rather have a kid being brought up in institution, than in a home with two loving parents? That's strange.

I don't care whether the kid becomes gay or not, it deserves the chance of having parents. Not to mention that having parents and family drastically increases the chances of becoming a middle-class citizen and drastically decreases the chances of ending up in jail.
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Having a home with parents >>>>> the increased chance of being gay.

on Sep 27, 2010
@Steliyan_Petkov_Georgiev
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@Valentin_Ivanov, Raising a kid in a gay family increases the chance that the kid becomes gay themselves. Gays, (despite of my friendly attitude towards them) cannot prolong the species. (Okay, don't mention artificial fertilization, etc. because this is not developed and accepted to the point that can support human population yet) and I cannot consider encouraging a behavior that lessens the chance for mankind survival and development (and this is because I consider it anti-evolutionary) a sensible attitude.

on Sep 27, 2010
@Valentin_Ivanov
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@Steliyan_Petkov_Georgiev I must disagree. I am in favor of gay couples adopting children (of course after going through the same procedures heterosexual couples go through).
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What is better - an orphan (or abandoned) child living in an institution or being adopted by two loving parents, even if they are gay?
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This seals the debate for me. It's always better to be brought up in a home with parents than in an institution. I see no reason depriving a child of loving parents, even if they are gay.

on Sep 27, 2010
@Steliyan_Petkov_Georgiev
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Although I have nothing against the marriage itself, I don't find it appropriate for gay couples to adopt kids. I don't care what happens between two people if they want it, but I don't agree that they involve another human being, who cannot take conscious decisions yes, into their business and depriving the kid of what is usually regarded as a traditional family.

on Sep 27, 2010
@Steliyan_Petkov_Georgiev
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I cannot have anything against the marriage. The marriage should be a matter of the ones who marry only, no matter if from the same sex or species.

on Sep 27, 2010
@Valentin_Ivanov
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I think gay marriage should be legal.

Moreover, I cannot think of a single reason why it should be illegal. Someone care to play devil's advocate?

on Sep 27, 2010
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